Daniel Johnson and Daniel Kickert have been two of the elite power forwards in the NBL over the past four seasons. Both are exceptional shooters at their position, both possess a high basketball IQ but who is better?

 

Tale Of The Tape

Daniel Johnson recently turned 30, weighs in at 108 kg (or 238 pounds) and even though he is listed at 212 cm (6″11 ½ in the old scale) I think he’s closer to 209 cm (6″10) myself.

 

Daniel Kickert at 35 has an extra five years on DJ and is listed at 208 cm (6″10) and 109 kg (or 240 pounds).

 

Johnson has had short stints overseas, most notably in Puerto Rico, Poland and Iran, but played the majority of his career in Australia, appearing in 271 NBL games. Kickert has played in less than half of that, suiting up in only 114 NBL games but what Kicks has been able to do overseas very few Australian’s have achieved. Winning a championship in the Ukrainian SuperLeague (2013) and having successful years with clubs in Spain and Poland outside David Andersen, considered Australia’s greatest international player of all-time, very few Australian’s had a better career in Europe.

 

Both men have NBL resumes which speak for themselves.

 

Daniel Johnson

  • 3 x All NBL first teams (2014, 2017, 2018)
  • 2 x All NBL second teams (2013, 2016)
  • 1 x All NBL third team (2012)
  • Most Improved Player (2012)
  • NBL Leading Rebounder (2013, 2016)

 

Daniel Kickert

  • 1 x All NBL first team (2016)
  • 1 x All NBL second team (2017)

 

But beyond the individual awards, we take a look at the unique skill sets both players possess.

 

SCORING:

Both can score in multiple ways and both can really hurt opposition teams from the perimeter or in the post. DJ has developed a nice touch in the paint in the last year or two, including a Dirk like step back runner over his right shoulder from either block and a dependable little jump hook.

 

Kicks is solid down there as well with either hand, and from the right block he is virtually unstoppable. Both also have a turn around fade away. DJ can take slower bigs off the dribble while Kicks is a catch and shoot man or a post-up. They can also hurt you from the perimeter.

 

Kicks is famously a member of the 50/40/90 club putting up the following stats:

2015/2016 – 52/47/90 | 14.7 ppg (fell four FT short)
2016/2017 – 54/46/95 | 12.7 ppg
2017/2018 – 52/42/92 | 13.9 ppg

 

Kicks gets by on minimum shot attempts and is one of the most efficient offensive players in the history of the NBL. DJ will never die wondering and is more than happy to carry the offensive load and take the big shot whereas Kicks is the perfect complimentary player to high scoring imports and Aussies.

 

The question around Kickert has always been “could he average more points per game?” Maybe, but would his effectiveness suffer, we’ll never know the answer to either, but obviously Kicks has the better field goal percentage but for me, scoring is about putting the ball in the basket which DJ isn’t afraid to do.

 

Interestingly enough, both have a current career average of 13.9 ppg in the NBL but I’m giving the edge to DJ here. He can hurt you more often, in more ways. Kicks makes shots when he gets open – DJ makes shots regardless.

 

EDGE – DJ

 

Scoring:
DJ 9/10
Kicks 7/10

 

DEFENSE:

Neither one is ever going to be confused for legendary NBL shot blocker Willie Simmons or ball thief Darryl McDonald but they are both solid and capable defenders. DJ has career averages of 0.6 blocks and 0.4 steals and Kicks is similar with 0.4 blocks and 0.3 steals.

 

DJ is a little more mobile and can switch out momentarily on to guards if he has too, and his defence, much maligned at the beginning of his career, is getting better. The stronger Kicks has a slight advantage in the post due to his strength and experience.

 

Edge – Kicks

 

Scoring:
DJ 7/10
Kicks 8/10

 

REBOUNDING:

Johnson cleans the glass more often than Kickert in their respective NBL careers 6.4 to 4.2 rebounds per game respectively. Johnson, the league’s leading rebounder in 2013 and 2016 as a clear advantage on Kicks, who has never averaged more than 4.6 rebounds per game.

 

Kickert has never been a huge rebounder, not in the NBL, overseas or even through College (just over 5 per game over 4 years). On the other hand, DJ hasn’t averaged less than 7 rebounds in the last four seasons with a career high of 9.2 rebounds per game set in 2015/2016.

 

DJ is also around the basket a little more whereas Kicks finds himself on the perimeter more often.

 

Edge – DJ.

 

Scoring:
DJ 8/10
Kicks 6/10

 

DURABILITY:

DJ had a year at Pepperdine University in 2007-08 where he averaged 9.4 ppg and 3.4 boards over 21 games. He then debuted as a rookie for the Melbourne Tigers (2008)before moving to Adelaide the following year, where he has remained ever since.

 

Despite taking short “working holidays” in Poland, New Zealand, Iran and Puerto Rico, playing 271 games at 30 years of age is quite a feat. One which has him sitting seventh among active NBL players in all-time games played. He has started in 77% of his NBL games (213/269 games) and played an active role each season, averaging 30 minutes or more since 2011.

 

Kicks played four years of college hoops at St. Marys, (2002-06) before going undrafted in the 2006 NBA draft. He then ventured overseas to begin his professional basketball career, playing in Italy (2006-07), Spain (2007-10), Poland (2011-12), Ukraine (2012-14) finally returning to Spain in 2014 before joining the Melbourne United.

 

After two seasons playing in front of his friends and family in Melbourne, Kickert played with the Brisbane Bullets (20016-18) for two seasons and then joined his friend and AIS teammate Andrew Bogut in Sydney (2018-19).

 

He has been a starter for most of his career (102 of 114 his games) and his durability as a player can be seen by the fact that Kickert has played men’s basketball every year since 2002 and averaged 26 minutes or more.

 

Despite this he has more than a few more miles on the clock than compared to DJ, but this is too close to call. Let’s just say both are extremely durable.

 

Edge – EVEN.

 

Scoring:
DJ 10/10
Kicks 6/10

 

PASSING:

DJ will pass to you… if you’re sitting on the ring. Kicks doesn’t need to pass, he’s too efficient. So when he gets the ball, it’s to shoot it… not set a team mate up.

 

DJ averaged 2.3 assists last year, not bad for a big guy in a super up tempo team, and has an NBL career average of just 1.3 apg. Kicks average 1.4 across his career and has an NBL career high of 2.1 apg in 2015/2016.

 

Edge – EVEN

 

Scoring:
DJ 6/10
Kicks 6/10

 

LEADERSHIP:

Both DJ and Kicks appear to be the handsome, silent, brooding types. They rarely get flustered and both lead by example. They are the perfect counterpoints to their more outgoing and extroverted teammates. Johnson is the Captain of the 36ers now, which speaks volumes about his leadership on and off the court. Kickert will speak up when necessary, and when he speaks, people listen.

 

EDGE – DJ

 

Scoring:
DJ 8/10
Kicks 7/10

 

BALL HANDLING:

Neither one is leading the break straight off a rebound. DJ is part of the high octane Sixers offence that values transition baskets more than life itself. Kicks rebounds, steady’s himself, then fills a lane or trails. Neither one has to handle the ball much in their current systems.

 

EDGE – EVEN

 

Scoring:
DJ 6/10
Kicks 6/10

 

SUMMARY:

 

Scoring: DJ 9 / Kicks 7
Defence: DJ 7 / Kicks 8
Rebounding: DJ 8 / Kicks 6
Durability: DJ 10 / Kicks 10
Passing: DJ 6 / Kicks 6
Leadership: DJ 8 / Kicks 7
Ball Handling: DJ 6 / Kicks 6

 

Totals

Daniel Johnson 54/70

Daniel Kickert 50/70

 

CONCLUSION

Both Daniels are undoubtedly great players and thrive within their respective systems. Kicks is 35 now, and has played for three different teams in the last three years. He is a solid professional with a set of skills that most teams covet. DJ is only 30 and is still improving every year and is a better scorer and rebounder.

 

Kicks is more efficient at the offensive end, but DJ is a more robust and proficient scorer. Kicks hold a slight edge defensively and both are extremely durable, but overall DJ gets the nod 54-50.

 

 

Share:

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

  • Which NBL Teams Spent the Most?

    Over the past three NBL seasons, clubs have spent almost $97 million assembling their rosters, but how much of that money has translated into wins, and which teams have delivered the best value for money? These figures represent cash spend, not salary cap spend. Cash spending includes player salaries and additional costs such as agent fees, bonuses, import related expenses and luxury tax, rather than simply the amounts counted against the league's salary cap. How much have NBL teams spent over the past three seasons?…

    READ MORE
  • ARE THE HAWKS “TIRED” OF TATUM’S VOICE?

    Larry Bird believed players began tuning out coaches after three years. Pat Riley reportedly put the limit at five, while Steve Kerr admitted his Golden State players were tired of hearing him in his fourth season. Now Justin Tatum is in his fourth season with Illawarra, and the Hawks have gone from NBL champions to the bottom of the ladder. Could they be experiencing the same problem? Justin Tatum transformed Illawarra from one of the NBL's worst teams into champions. But ahead of today's clash…

    READ MORE
  • COULD BRIAN GOORJIAN HAVE SAVED THE MELBOURNE TIGERS?

    In 2002, the Melbourne Tigers were fighting for survival when they identified an opportunity to attract supporters from their biggest rivals. Their plan to honour Brian Goorjian was blocked by the Victoria Giants, potentially changing the course of Melbourne basketball history. In 2002, the Melbourne Tigers devised a plan that could have changed the future of their club. The Tigers were emerging from financial administration, crowds were falling and the club had been forced to abandon its home at Vodafone Arena, now known as John…

    READ MORE
  • GOLD COAST NBL EXPANSION SET TO BECOME A REALITY?

    A new funding proposal, a crucial November meeting and renewed interest from the NBL could finally provide a pathway for professional basketball to return to the Gold Coast. The Gold Coast's long-running push to return to the NBL has reached another critical stage, with Mayor Tom Tate preparing to meet Queensland Deputy Premier Jarrod Bleijie in November to discuss the future of the proposed $1 billion Gold Coast Arena. After years of negotiations, changing timelines and funding setbacks, the city's hopes of securing an NBL…

    READ MORE
  • Paul Rees on NBL titles, battles with Brian Goorjian and small town success

    Four-time NBL champion and 1994 Grand Final MVP Paul Rees joins the podcast to reflect on his journey from small-town basketball to a 17-season NBL career with the Brisbane Bullets, North Melbourne Giants and Adelaide 36ers. Visit dunk.com.au for your next set of basketball uniforms. Host Dan Boyce chats with Rees about winning championships with North Melbourne and Adelaide, playing under Brett Brown and Phil Smyth, representing Australia at the 1994 World Championship, and battling Brian Goorjian and some of the NBL’s best teams throughout…

    READ MORE
  • MELBOURNE UNITED NEEDS TO DECIDE: Are they the Tigers or not?

    Jensen Bradtke wearing his father Mark’s famous No. 50 should be one of the great stories of NBL27. Instead, it has again exposed a question Melbourne United has never properly answered: when does Melbourne Tigers history belong to United, and when doesn’t it? Seeing BRADTKE and No. 50 together on a Melbourne basketball jersey again should be nothing other than a celebration. Jensen Bradtke is beginning his first season with Melbourne United, wearing the same number his father Mark wore through one of the great…

    READ MORE
  • The Next Step: Breakout player candidates for NBL27

    Every NBL pre-season, there is plenty of attention on players around the league who could take the next step in their professional basketball journey. A breakout can happen in different ways. For some players, it’s getting more opportunity. For an established player, it can mean building on what they have already achieved and elevating their game to another level. For others, it may simply take a new home where their skills can be maximised. Below are four players who I think are ready to break…

    READ MORE
  • Mario Donaldson on THAT 1994 NBL Dunk Contest and his time playing with Sydney & Canberra

    Former Sydney Kings and Canberra Cannons import Mario Donaldson joins the podcast to revisit his time in the NBL, including competing in the famous 1994 NBL Dunk Contest, the highs and lows of his seasons in Sydney and Canberra, and the success he found playing around the world. Host Dan Boyce chats with Donaldson about arriving in Sydney in 1994 and playing alongside Leon Trimmingham, helping the Kings return to the playoffs and establishing himself as one of the league’s best outside shooters. Visit dunk.com.au…

    READ MORE